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Sepia version of the postage stamp on the letter from Kurisu to Okabe in the Official After Story

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  • Hello, can you tell me in detail about what we know about what Okabe is doing right now. I am watched the S;G anime, played the VN and watched the R;N anime (since the VN is not available in a language I speak). I know the anime is lacking in content (if you would be nice, can you fill me out on what important it skipped, since I can't find info related to the R;N VN anywhere, even the wiki has the anime as its source) and I was reading a page on this wiki and saw one of your comments and it was about what happened after S;G ended. There you mentioned Operation Lævateinn. I am interested in knowing about it and also about how Kurisu and Daru were involved in R;N. Also is committee of Antimatter still canon even though it got cancelled? since it says that they are still in a long distance relationship :[

    btw I am asking this because you seem to be knowledgeable about the SciAdv series. 

    Thanks in advance!

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  • is the guide of 0 refers Strategic Focus as Strafor?

    because i remember in 0 mr braun called it Sutoratofoa (Stratfor, i guess).

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    • Ah, no, that was just me typoing, à la "soundtrucks". ;) The guide calls it ストラトフォー, same as the real life equivalent. Strategic Focus doesn't actually have an "r" in the second word, though. So maybe the official translation will be "Stratfo"...? The guide doesn't actually romanize the abbreviated name, so I guess we will have to wait and see how PQube translates it.

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    • well, we'll see it Soon™, and damn that soundtruck was gold i laughed too much when i first saw it and took back my will to fix it.

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  • HI zeldakasumi there's something i want your opinion about 

    when suzuha went to the past (divergence 0.337187%) .i wonder what is the real cause that make suzuha lose her memories .is it because the broken time machine or (according to boukan no rebellion) because of kayano drop her from the 8th floor building.is this manga canon or not? what do you think about it?

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    • Hello my friend, I am fine. How about you?

      Do not worry about it my friend, I know you get busy sometimes, we all get busy sometimes. I am not very active these days, but I am still here. (^_^)



      ~BlackholeSpelunker~

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    • Hi Zelda, how are you? How have you been? Are you still on the wiki? It has been a very long time.  

      I hope you will return back well my friend, hope to see you soon


      ~BlackholeSpelunker~

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  • Hello is it rude if i ask your name?

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    • … A highly unexpected question given the setting.

      I prefer to be known here by my username Zeldakasumi, or you’re welcome to just call me Zelda for short.

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  • Do you know japanese?

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    • if you going straight for translating things, jisho.org might be a good place, i used it quite often to translate things (by searching from radicals, or if you cant found, just draw it lmao)

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    • Yup, jisho.org is great and keeps on improving. When it comes to handwritten/drawn kanji searching, though, I still currently prefer Bullock's search engine. I've had better results with it up til now.

      Btw, and this has nothing to do with kanji, I absolutely love the OJAD. Getting pitch-accnt right is quite difficult for me.

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  • Why plot summary needs its own page? Just want to learn.

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    • - Just popping in with a quick reply -

      About explaining what the titles mean, I am wishing to include that too. The guidebook has a whole section dedicated to explaining the titles, so I'll be able to give you their meaning straight from the horse's mouth, as it were.

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    • Thanks :). I do not have problem with long pages, Actually, short pages are problem for me, I love reading.

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  • i added the chapter titles few days ago, just sayin

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    • Like Zeldakasumi said, it is Japanese guidebook, and it's just released few days ago, so there won't be any translation until now, but there maybe one later

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    • I wish there would be an English translation of the guidebook, but I doubt it. So far none of the five(I think?) Steins;Gate guidebooks (EDIT: Oh yeah, there're also the anime guidebook and movie info book... so that'd be 7 if you want to count those.) have been translated and published for the English market as far as I know.

      However, I've been/am using four of them

      • Steins;Gate Official Documents
      • Chaos;Head & Steins;Gate Science Adventure Series Maniacs (カオスヘッド&シュタインズ・ゲート 科学アドベンチャーシリーズ マニアックス)
      • Steins;Gate Linear Bounded Phenogram Official Documents
      • Steins;Gate 0 Official Document Amadeus' Script

      while working on this wiki, so some of their information is available through here, but not all (yet) and some pages on this wiki need a major overhaul to get them up to date with all of the new information available since the articles/comments were written quite awhile ago.

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  • ==Hi Zeldakasumi, it has been long time :D . I am sorry I haven't responded to you, clearly you have spent a lot of time. But I read you blog when you have written, I had exams and postponed writing a response and then forgot (I just finished mirai nikki and remembered this). I don't remember details now, unfortunately I was still thinking that there were serious loopholes. I don't think you could do better, as I understand VN doesn't help. Thanks a lot anyway.==

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  • Hi zelda,

    I have a question about the 2 different traductions of the original VN: I'm prospecting to translate the VN in french, i'm technically nearly OK but it seems that the fan traduction (the one we consult often here: http://lparchive.org/SteinsGate/ ) in english and the official one have several differences in a lot of phrase. My question is, which one is the most accurate/litteral with the japanese version? That will help me to make a good translation.

    Thank you.

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    • Honestly, I think you might get a better informed answer to this question if you consider asking someone like Reading Steiner who worked on both the fan and the official translations, I think. Or maybe Link0306...?

      To be honest, the last time I properly played the Steins;Gate VN was with the old fan translation patch and before I started learning Japanese. -I keep promising myself that I will take the time to play all the way through the official translation before the SG0 anime airs.-

      I do tend to use the lparchive because it saves time and is handy to have a text source split up by scene where you can exactly point someone to. I have, however, been reviewing chapter 6 of the official visual novel as I am working on revising an old blog post, because I wanted to replace the lines I quoted from the lparchive with the official translations.

      What I've been noticing with my own limited Japanese listening comprehension and comparing the fan with the official translations, is that both translations are often pretty close to each other. Very occasionally, I thought the fan translation might be more literal. However, it also has some big errors that one has to be wary for.

      Example:
      (Official - correct meaning, but not completely literal word choice)
      "Some of SERN's researchers in my time came up with the theory that memories are a way of sharing information across worldlines."

      (Fan - incorrect meaning)
      "In 2036, SERN researchers came up with a theoretical 'means to transfer information' to yourself across world lines"


      I hope this has helped a little.

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    • Thank you to these infos i'm going to ask to reading steiner for confirmation.

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  • Can you explain to me in layman's terms what went down in the final episodes of Steins;Gate and the Steins;Gate movie? I binged the entire series in the timespan of a few days which is the source of most of my confusion regarding the series. Here's my basic understanding of it:

    • By returning to the beta world line, Okabe returns to a world line seen in episode one where Makise Kurisu dies.
      • I have a few questions about this. Okabe unintentionally sends a D-Mail saying that Makise to Daru saying that Kurisu has died. What exactly does this change and how did it prevent Kurisu's death in the first place?
      • Second question: Why does he need to trick himself into seeing Kurisu's death? What exactly does that accomplish? So his past self sees Kurisu as dead, but she isn't actually dead. How come Kurisu is thanking Okabe later on the street? Wouldn't the Okabe of the past have seen her as dead?
      • Final question: What's up with the video from his future self? Why does he need to fail once to view it? Didn't Suzuha just bring it from the future or was it sent from the future to his past self?
    • Regarding the movie. My understanding is that we're now in the Steins;Gate world line, and Okabe is suffering from some sort of relapse after witnessing multiple world lines. He's having difficulty cementing himself into the Steins;Gate world line, so he is being shifted into the R World line. To prevent this, Kurisu needs to go back in time (to 2005) and implant a memory in Okabe's mind that cements him in the Steins;Gate world line.
      • I have a lot of questions about this. What exactly is the R World line? Is it just the world line that Okabe is being shifted into?
      • Why is it that Kurisu going back in time and kissing him cements him into the Steins;Gate world line? What exactly changes? Do the events of the Steins;Gate series still take place or what?
      • The ending in particular confuses me. Can you break down the scene of Okabe watching Kurisu on the phone and their conversation afterwards?

    As you can probably tell, I know the basics of what transpired, I am just having difficulty putting together the whys an the hows.

    Thanks for your time!

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    • A. This Alpha Suzuha's Loop helped me understand a lot. Thank you. But I think this could also be the correct loop (sorry, this is just my opinion)..

      Alpha Suzuha's Loop:

      SUZUHA1 arrived with a time machine to 28-7-2010, upon arriving the TM busted the Radio Building where Nakabachi's presentation should be held, and preventing Kurisu's Death. -> Mayuri dies -> Okabe tried to save Mayuri using time leap many times but failed -> SUZUHA1 rides the time machine in 9-8-2010 to 1975 to finish her mission to secure an IBN 5100, hoping to save the future and save Mayuri as well -> The end result of her mission was a fail because she failed to change the future -> In 2011 somehow SERN managed to get Kurisu works for them -> SERN monopolizes TM in the future and rulled the world -> Daru cracked SERN for the Time Machine design and concept, and by that he build it, even though it is only capable to travel back in time -> in 2036 SUZUHA1 rides a time machine with a mission to 1975 to secure an IBN 5100, however she decided to make a stop at 2010 to see her father, (instead of landing cleanly) her Time Machine crashes at the Radio Building where Nakabichi's presentation should be held, and preventing Kurisu's Death--> Loop Continues

      Notes:

      1) I don't think Suzuha made a stop at year 2000 to make a fuss online in the Alpha world line because I remember that there was a time in the alpha world line when Okabe was looking for his books about Titor, but can't find them, he also saw in the internet that the posts of John Titor in 2000 that he remembered were gone, and what irritated him was there was someone pretending to be Titor at that time which was Suzuha1

      2.1) I think the reason why her TM crashed at the Radio Building was because of the very first D mail of Okabe sent after seeing Kurisu's body in blood, which disrupts the landing of her Time Machine -> preventing Kurisu's Death->  thus Alpha world line (the abovementioned loop) is created.

      2.2) If okabe did not send the D-mail after seeing Kurisu's body, they will stay in the Beta world line where SERN will not rule  in the future because they did not discover Okabe's lab in 2010-> However, Kurisu's papers still made its way to Russia so the future of this world line will be WW3.

      B. My Conclusion: the SPECIAL EVENT (you called this turning point) that must happen until that day in 2010 is for Okabe to see Kurisu lying down on the floor bloody, so that he must choose if he will Send the D mail or Not. Which will determine if the world line will shift to Alpha or stay in Beta. This is probably why preventing kurisu's death by other means will always fail. But if Okabe fakes her death, She can be saved, because the SPECIAL EVENT will still happen........(probabe but I can't see why Kurisu kept on dying in the beta world line, this is the only conclusion I can think of)

      In the same way, I also can't see why Mayuri keeps on dying in the Alpha world line no matter how he tries to save her using Time leap. Is the event of Kurisu dying important in the Alpha world line as well, like Kurisu's lying on the floor in Beta world line? and why are they that important? Perhaps that's the last thing I don't understand clearly now.

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    • OMG sorry i write the loop in a not well condition it messed up XD, fixed it.

      according your notes:

      1) (sorry again for that messed loop xD) Suzuha has no mission to act as john titor in this worldline, but maybe as if the world converges on the existence of john titor's fuss in the internet, as suzuha reach 2010 she write those things by the alias john titor

      2.1)  Nope, Suzuha's TM is supposed to land on rooftop, but due to some miscalculation it stuck on the top floor wall instead, Okabe's First D-Mail has no direct relation to this, but it does cause this thing to happen by accident since Alpha Suzuha's TM landed in 28-7-2010 is part of the loop created after Okabe's first D-Mail detected by SERN, and Kurisu leave her Time Machine Paper in the Wrecked room where her father should have had his presentation, and her Paper is collected by Moeka and sent directly to SERN (happened in the Shijou Saikyou no Slight Fever Manga)


      I see, i once also thought that the real Turning Point is the moment Okabe saw Kurisu lying unconscious on top of blood pool until he sent the first D-Mail. What happened after that moment until 17th august 2010 doesn't matter because at that time the Okabe we observe throughout the series is living his consciousness in alpha worldline.


      Mayuri's death in alpha worldline is probably caused by the Attractor Field Convergence itself. Unlike Kurisu's death in Beta Attractor Field who happened around the Turning Point, Mayuri's Death happened long after the Turning Point, so the only way to prevent Mayuri's Death is to get over the 1.000000% divergence barrier (escaping the Alpha Attractor Field).

      About why Kurisu kept dying in Beta AF worldlines, how about we think about it the other way around, what if Kurisu's Death and Nakabachi brought the paper away to Russia in the moment of Turning Point is what leads the worldline into Beta AF?


      so what creates Beta worldline or S;G worldline is the result after the TURNING POINT, Okabe1 who came from 21 August 2010 to 28 July 2010 did the "Process" of saving Kurisu while Okabe2 who was originated in the 28 July 2010 observed unconscious Kurisu lying on a pool of blood played the TURNING POINT moment, sent the D-Mail and spent weeks adrift in Alpha worldline. And then as Okabe1 returned to his present, he will land in the worldline that caused by the "Result of the Process"

      1. Beta worldline: Process '-> Result of the Process 1: Kurisu Died -> 'TURNING POINT -> Result of the Process 2: Time Machine Paper made it to Russia safely -> Beta worldline

      2. S;G worldline: Process '-> Result of the Process 1: Kurisu Alive but knocked unconscious to fool the past version of Okabe -> 'TURNING POINT -> Result of the Process 2:  Time Machine Paper burnt by accident -> Steins;Gate worldline

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